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The Truth vs. Jaybsty (Review battle)

Jaybsty said: "Sorry Trem I pinched ya rules, hope ya don't mind! haha This battle is not an attack on eachother, but rather just on the reviews themselves obviously.... Categories which must be judged are [B]Introduction- Content- Body- Conclusion-[/B] things to also be considered are knowledge, vocab, enjoyment. Albums to be reviewed will be posted in a minute..."

Jaybsty said: "My album will be Commons Like Water For Chocolate. The Truth will be reviewing Internal Affairs by Pharoahe Monch. Good luck!"

Jaybsty said: "[CENTER][B][SIZE="5"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Like Water For Chocolate[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37LO49JP"]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37LO49JP[/URL] Download tha album!!! [IMG]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004S51H.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [SIZE="3"][I]Common’s 4th solo effort is a complex blend of soulful & funky beats combined with insane rhyme schemes to provide a mind blowing listening experience. Common seems to be poised & ready to expose any fake artists (Dooinit) in the industry while at the same time expressing his own tales of love (The Light), stories of revenge (payback is a grandmother), insightful views and metaphorical journeys (Ghetto Heaven) & other songs that are just plain funky & original (Funky For You, Thelonius). Like Water for Chocolate is creative, humorous (A film called), soulful & poetic & its guest appearances range from Veteran femcee MC Lyte, to Slum Village, to the harmonising sounds of Macy Gray & Cee Lo. Like Water For Chocolate is definitely a display of Common, close to his best.[/I][/SIZE] [B]Intro (Time travelling) [/B]– A jazzy instrumental w/ Common getting funky with his flow in parts throughout. Extremely similar to the style Common adopted & evolved into on his Electric Circus album. The intro is skippable, but a must listen for lovers of jazzy instrumentals. [B]Heat[/B] – This song has very old school production by Jay Dee & even goes into a clapping sample at some parts. Common spit fiya with punches like, you couldn’t “fuck with my style” if you were a “nympho”! Common’s rhyme scheme is crazy & the hook is rather simple yet effective. [B]Cold Blooded[/B] – Produced by ?uestlove from the Roots & a funky hook provided by Black Thought, this is one of the hottest tracks on the album. Common’s rhyme scheme is just fucking sickness as he attacks the commercial world telling us “that jiggy shit is over, the war is on! I only wanna be a soldier but I’m holding on, to a culture, focused like Gordon Parkes, when it’s sorta dark, for niggas flooded with ice my thoughts the art! Definitely one of the top songs off the album, you should find this track being repeated quite often! [B]Dooinit[/B] – Common expresses his feelings toward certain parts of the hip-hop industry. Spitting deepness & subliminally dissing material rappers. The hook is original & has an old school feel to it and the beat is funky. Common’s flow & multis are on point for the whole song. [B]The Light[/B] – Common opens his heart & sends a shout out to his girl that he’ll always be there for her & how much he respects her. Bilal provides the hook, which is very harmonious but can become a little bit annoying after to many listens. The beat is average but the message is deep & thoughtful. [B]Funky For You[/B] – The beat to this song is so funky! (Hence the name) Common experiments with a style where he ends each rhyme with ahh! I’m a child of the (ahh), the 87 (ahh) from the streets; get on a beat & go (ahh!). The experimenting with styles is a success & this song ends up being one of the best listens on the album. The 2-minute outro is rather unnecessary & drags on a little bit but doesn’t ruin the song. [B]The Questions[/B] – This song is rather bizarre, from what could have been a great concept w/ a guest appearance from Mos Def. This song in fact turns out to be quite disappointing with limited thought put into the hook & a guess appearance by Macy Gray, which is really not needed. Seems a lot more like Common, Mos & Macy were just sitting round in the studio getting high or drunk & made up the song in half an hour. The beat is funky, but the lyrics are weak & not what we’ve come to expect from Com & Mos. [B]Time Travellin Reprise[/B] – Another soulful instrumental, really just a filler track, with not much purpose. It is definitely skippable. [B]The 6th Sense [/B]– The top track of the album in my opinion, Common continues his crusade against anything fake or commercial spitting insane rhymes over a tight DJ Premier beat. Bilal provides a nice hook, which seems to fit perfectly with the scratches Primo provides for the beat. The song fades out with a humorous skit by Common, in which he portrays a pimp & totally contradicts compliments he gets from one of his fans about his conscience rhymes. Quite funny & you know Common is tryna make a point. It’s also sort of an intro for the next song… [B]A Film Called (PIMP) [/B]– This song is aight, not really Common’ style but the hook is very funky & MC Lyte provides a good guess appearance. Common again uses vivid visual story telling & insane metaphors with lines like “her body language spoke like a smart remark” or “see she had game, needed me to coach her!” The song then fades out with another instrumental & also changes into [B]Nag Champa [/B]– This song is a bit of a change in pace for the album, a lot more like some of his songs from “Be” especially reminiscent of the “Love” song. The hook has got an R n B feel to it & Common continues to attack anything fake with lines like “In this never ending battle to please, niggas, magazine writers MC’s”. His flow is a lot slower than most songs, but still on point as always! [B]Thelonius[/B] – This song is not Common’s best lyrical display of the album, but instead displays his diversity & ability to spit in many styles. The hook is very tight & flows incredibly well, the beat is proly the funkiest off the album. Slum Village make a guest appearance & don’t disappoint. Common doesn’t really murder them on this track like you’d expect. Not sure if that was intentional or not? Lol. The song ends with a skit of Common on his celly with an urgent message from his grandmother saying she got robbed. (Leads into next song) [B]Payback is a Grandmother [/B]– This song is rather humorous & amusing as Common proves payback is a bitch. Getting his revenge on wax as he tells the story about his grandmother getting robbed. His flow is very good for story telling & the hook is rather simple just choosing to use a bit of scratching. The story actually ends with Com discovering that his barber was the one who robbed his grandmother & after whopping his ass a truck pulls up with 6 dudes there’s gun shots & police sirens & we can only assume Com got away! haha [B]Ghetto Heaven[/B] – The official single from the album, Ghetto Heaven features Macy Gray on the hook & doesn’t disappoint, as Macy seems to fit the track like a toy train set. The beat is very soothing & melodious & Common is extremely deep in this song dealing with issues in the ghetto & expressing his opinions & thoughts. He has an incredible flow the whole track & Macy’s harmonising on the hook only makes this track a more fantastic listen. [B]Song For Assata[/B] – This song is extremely soulful, as Common tells the Story of Assata and her journey w/ the black panthers. It is a good story with insane flow & rhymes schemes yet again. Cee Lo provides a really good hook also but seems to go a bit overboard towards the end of the song. It also includes voice samples from Assata, which adds a good touch to the song to help you feel the story. Common continue to contemplate through the song “I wonder what would happened if that woulda been me? All of this just so we could be free?” [B]Pops Rap 3…all my children[/B] – The album concludes with Common’s pops talking over a funky beat thanking his son & at the same time, sharing some wisdom. [SIZE="3"][I]Overall the album is insane & you’ll rarely find yourself skipping any songs. It can be described as innovative, original, soulful, funky, insightful & most importantly enjoyable. If it is not in your collection or constantly getting selected on your iPod I suggest you go & do something about it![/I][/SIZE] [B]Fave Song – The 6th Sense Fave Line – When penitentiary talk, coke and a hennesy walk, my imagery talks, metaphors and similies stalk![/B] [SIZE="5"][U][B]Overall Rating – 9/10[/B][/U][/SIZE]"

Jaybsty said: "Awww damn, you put in some mad work on that review! I think ya got me here...lol. Good review! Votes please!"

Jaybsty said: "Can we at least get some feedback if y'all aint gonna vote? lol C'mon we put some mad work in on these reviews!!!"

Tremor said: "fuckin style pinchers!!!! good luck! but Truth is lucky! i suggested Buck did Pharohe Monche!"

Tremor said: "[QUOTE=Jaybsty]Can we at least get some feedback if y'all aint gonna vote? lol C'mon we put some mad work in on these reviews!!![/QUOTE] yes you can get soem feedback....both were very nicely done! and you were lucky! these were the 2 cds me and buck were gonna do.... both had indepth feed of lyrics and beats...personally...i thought jays seemed a little more personal the way he was describing it...but not that it matters...Truth would get teh vote just on the sheer size and content of it of the lyrics, cd info and beats... i think if these battles were to be done again, there would have to be a size limitation...like 10000 charecters (which is the largest a single post can be) cheers"

TheTruth said: "My album Pharoahe Monch-Internal Affairs"

TheTruth said: "[SIZE="6"][CENTER]Pharoahe Monch-Internal Affairs[/CENTER][/SIZE] [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FHPMWMBK[/url] [IMG]http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/b9/80/b292b2c008a0f7e5db8a5010._AA240_.L.jpg[/IMG] [B]1.Intro[/B] The beat is very well put together with the DJ scratching on it. The beat has a up lifting feel with quintet of trumpets. His lyrics on this are fairly good with very nice vocab which makes this a superb intro for a CD. -[B]Favorite lines-[/B] [I]I have a dream, one day we will get to the promised land Then the president will be me The government will be Shabaam, Mos and Kweli that's it All whackness is now banned[/I] -[B]SongRating[/B]-For a Intro i would give this a 9/10 [B]2.Behind Closed Doors[/B] The beat on this track is grimey, simple but effective. His lyrics are on point with a hot flow and nice vocab to top it off.The hook is ok it fits the verse well but still could have been better. This track showcases his sharp wordplay, metaphors and multis, which are very impressive. [B]-Favorite lines-[/B][I]How I made it you salivated over my calibrated raps that validated my ghetto credibility Still I be packin agilities unseen F'realla my killin abilities unclean facilities For more than military tactics obscene extreme confidential My exterior serene with the potential of a killin machine[/I] [I]Decapitate his ass, smack him, slap him in the back of the truck Exasperate the life of his man and then pack it up Cut off his hands and send his girl multiple finger sandwiches If she manages to damages, put her in bandages[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-8/10 [B] 3.Queens[/B] This beat is ok nothing spectacular but still a good beat. This track showcases his storytelling abilities, its a short track that leaves you wanting more ot he story.. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]-[I]Youngest of three sons, fuckin with coupons and refunds food stamps, and still he was a champ Time to get loot for boots and kicks now Fuck hoops gotta impress the chicks now His momma said, "Donovan why are you on the corner of Linden and Guy R. Brewer" He said, "Momma listen close I'ma tell you one time You're killin my high, plus I got a nine All I be doin is puttin in work so you can get a brand new dress for church[/I] [B]Song Rating[/B]-7/10 [B]4.Rape[/B] The beat is decent but the lyrics are very nice. He is portraying rape as the rap game in a very witty way. His multis, wordplay and metaphors has a strong presences on this track. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]-[I]I snatch the kick, kick the snares and sodomize the bassline Never waste time, I give the verse rabies Cum on the chorus, tell the hook to swallow my babies Maybe I might... switch! Let the witch live The original plan was to kill the bitch on the bridge Ditch the body parts off somewhere near the crescendo When my innuendos elapse... my mental window attacks; the instrumental elapses[/I] [I] Slice the rhythm... disfigure the face of the groove For any fader that flies or knobs or button that moves[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-9/10 [B]5.Simon Says[/B] Very nice the tubas make this beat very impressive. The hook is suitable for this beat and makes this song that much more appealing. GET THE FUCK UP His wordplay,multis and punchlines are effective on this track. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]-[I]You all up in the Range, then your shit's inebriated Phased from your original plan, you deviated I alleviated the pain, with a long-term goal Took my underground loot, without the gold You sold platinum round the world, I sold wood in the hood But when I'm in the street, then shit it's all good I'm soon to motivate the room, control the game like Tomb Raider Roc-clock dollars flip, tips like a waiter[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-8/10 [B] 6.Official[/B] This track is hot he kills it with anything that has to do with sports players/sports. Just check these lyrics out, his wordplay and punches are very complex on this song. His creativity on this song is astounding in different aspects in the game. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]-[I]My style, make the whole crowd Se-au Like number 55 on the Chargers[/I] [I]Not Allen Iverson, forget crossin-over shake men Similar to Troy, I bring the pain destined to Aik-man Break men off, take men out, make me wanna slander Prime Time, my rhyme defense beyond Deion Sanders I walk the earth with my Rod in this Strick-land Promise, people thought I was Thomas Hearns the way I Hit Man[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-9.5/10"

TheTruth said: "[B]7.Hell[/B] On this track his features Canibus, who brings a decent verse to the table. They are indirectly referring to the rap game as hell. I wasnt feeling the beat but still it was effective intertwined with there lyrics. [B]-Favorite lines[/B]-[U]Monch's Lines[/U] [I]Focus upon the facts that facts can be fabricated to form lies My phonetics alone forces feeble MC's into defense on the fly[/I] [U]Canibus's Lines[/U] [I]Yo yo I feel like I'm one of the livest One of hip hop's finest, elite rhymers And I plan to graduate wit honors But one day we'll all be a bunch of old-timers wit Alzheimer's [/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-6.5/10 [B]8.No Mercy[/B] This song is fairly good, the beat sets it off nicely. Pharoahe's vocab is out of control through out his whole verse. He features M.O.P on this track,who bring a decent but not spectactular verse. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]-[U]Monchs [/U] [I]Fuck the trinity inseminate the earth now, take its virginity In my vicinity rap is like energy pack [/I] [I]This rhyme, will remain in the minds of my foes forever in infamy The epitome of lyrical epiphanies Skillfully placed home we carefully plan symphonies Who would be ignorant enough to have the audacity to fuck wit the likes of I and my tenacity? This is, what you, get when, you fuck, with the, likes of, the magnanimous flows of total assholes and ignoramuses M.O.P. slash Pharoahe Monch cause damages The advantage is we banish artists labels and managers Amateurs found six feet deep, in metal canisters we[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-8/10 [B] 9.Right Here[/B] This track is a good listen but I felt it was missing something. Monch still brings some hot lines on this track but overall I wanted more. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [I]Every line to word of mine will be verbally placed to murder you The master, flippin convertible flows irreversible Unobtainable to the brain it's unexplainable what the verse'll do Pharoahe's the sperm your mind's the eggs I'm burstin through Y'all heard of me, I pack macs and crack vertebraes Leave niggaz with third degree burns and back surgery[/I] [I]Now the name reign supreme, seen major creme Rhymes, sicker than lyme disease and gangrene I'm the most obligated, nigga creatin havoc Check the meaning for Monch, the meaning becomes tragic[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-7/10 [B]10.The Next Shit[/B] On this track i would say this is Monchs weakiest verse so far on this CD. I wasnt impressed with the beat it has a wild wild west feel to it. Busta Rhymes comes with a decent verse on this track. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [I]Monch's[/I] [I]Didn't figure the ridiculous flow will hit vigorously Triggerin' a rigorous amount of energy[/I] [I]You run up on him without a gun I run up on 'em Excel 'em, sell 'em verbally never seen me comin'[/I] [U]Busta Rhymes[/U] [I]Yo Busta Rhymes, the imperial lyrical you heard Kill like the one syllable word The criminal of the lyrical killin' you pitiful Niggas, leavin' you in a critical, destroyin' ya mineral[/I] [I] For moderation niggas going to hibernation While I legally chase the situation of hyper nation Now that we credible I require a busy schedule Collectin' federals being put on a pedestal[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-6/10 [B] 11.The Ass[/B] The track name speaks for it self, he kills it talking about sex. The beat fits perfectly wit the lyrics on the this song. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [U]Monchs[/U] [I]on the cellular my genitalia pitched the pelvis Uh-huh, when her hips gyrate like Elvis[/I] [I]She said (When you ready to blast, don't ask, say when) Had her screamin like lightin a nuke when I was halfway in In the past I used to send em back, give em the minimum Now I leave em with venom on they chin when I'm bendin em Y'all know the name - get it engraved, sex slave Stadium style, from the back, ass doin the wave (HEY!)[/I] [U]Pani[/U] [I]Don't sleep, privately I peep with devices Energizers keep me vibratin in a crisis Representin my bitches, throwin clitorises like ventriloquistes limp, penises don't kiss these pussy lipses Please you play, clay with top grade shit I seen bigger dicks in pre-K[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-8.5/10 [B] 12.The Light[/B] This song is anouther storytelling piece of Pharoahes. The beat and hook was very nice on this track it is the type of material Little brother would be on. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [I]And like marijuana shotguns let's blow this joint It's pointless to say here, so let me annoint[/I] [I]we kissin and we wrestlin - sexual confessions I never lack to pack prophylact', I learned my lesson First impression, to be discrete, use discretion Back of the cab undressin - uh-huh I'm here witchu, sorta like a bond spiritual[/I] [B]-Song Rating[/B]-8.5/10 [B]13.God Send[/B] I was really feeling what they brought on this track. The beat fits perfectly with the meaning and point of there lyrics. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [U]Monch[/U] [I]Mathematically we live at right angles Fuck the star spangled, the makers of fallen angels danglin from moon crescents, I persevere, breathe the air inhale the effervesence of life This street game is stiflin I'm triflin upholdin a rifle[/I] [U]Prince Poetry[/U] Now my vision of life, is hell and heaven on split screen Bust your shit like Mitch Greene (snitch) I switch scenes Bring drama to that ass, that's how we on it in Queens What? Stray bullets continue shatterin dreams, batterin spleens I'm gatherin schemes, had only cream just as bad as a fiend -Song Rating-8/10 14.The Truth This track brings a strong message about Truth. With Common and Talib Kweli bringin solid verse on this topic it polished the track off nicely..All three verses come together to make a real deep piece of work. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [U]Monch[/U] [I]Truth brings light, light refracts off the mirror Visions of yourself and error could never clearer The truth is that you ugly, not on the outside But in the inside on the outside you frontin you lovely The discovery of these things and all are well-hidden But when you in denial of self it is forbidden, that's the truth[/I] [U]Common[/U] [I]Let the truth be told from young souls that become old >From days spent in the jungle, where must one go To find it, time is real, we can't rewind it Out of everybody I met, who told the truth? Time did We find kids speakin cuz it's naturally in us But the false prophets by tellin us we born sinners Venders of hate, got me battlin my own mind state At a divine rate, I ain't in this just to rhyme great[/I] [I]Wonderin why I gotta drink a six pack to speak it Took a picture of the truth and tried to develop it Had proof, it was only recognized by the intelligent Took the negative and positive, cuz niggas got to live[/I] [U]Talib Kweli[/U] [I]Check it, on my neck I still got marks from the nooses The truth it produces, fear that got niggas on the run like Carl Lewis The truth is my crew is the smoothest bits of saliva juices like the roots is More organic than acoustics[/I] [I]This must be the truth (why?) cuz we keep marchin on (true) The truth lay the foundation of what we rockin on (true) You can't see it if you blind but we will always prevail (true) Life is like the open sea, the truth is the wind in our sail And in the end, our names is on the lips of dying men If ever crushed in the earth, we always rise again When the words of lying men sound lush like the sound of a violin The truth is there, it's just the heart you gotta find it in[/I] Song Rating-10/10 [B]15.Simon Says Remix[/B] This is a nice closer for a album which has an array of artist on this one track. [B]-Favorite Lines[/B]- [U]Lady Luck[/U] [I]I suppose what you're spittin is flames, cowards Know your crew was vaginal, I could smell the dooch powder Summer's Eve, I drop degrees chill Come four by four, lose one like Dru Hill Stay fly till you air sick, now that's ill Two choices, either squeeze or peel, now that's real[/I] [U]Monch[/U] [I]Uh I bust a rhyme that dust frustrated rappers Dust crush competition, lights out like the Clapper[/I] [U]Redman[/U] [I]I got a bitch named Nina and I tuck her I leave a nigga hangin like ya mom's muffler Snuff her, then my boys follow up Respect like the Fonze, you see the collar up[/I] [I] I'm too smoked up, I can't remember me Off Hennesy, that's why I carry Mini-Me[/I] [U]MethodMan[/U] [I]Walk through Shaolin after dark, you get stuck up Seek and destroy, baddest boy when I'm puffed up[/I] [I]Assholes are like opinions, everybody got to have one Shootin in the sky tryin to blast sun Zero to sixty in a second, pull a fast one[/I] [I]Underground and filthy, gotta have our Way like the Milky[/I] [U]Shabaam Sahdeeq[/U] [I]You herbs get flipped like jeeps on mountain cliffs[/I] [I]Y'all crabs are weak, frail like a fiend's physique[/I] [U]Busta Rhymes[/U] [I]Enough substance in the roughness Now watch it come around in an amazing large abundance Now let me clear the smoke screen you blow fiend Live nigga shit that'll rebuild your whole self-esteem[/I] Overall-9/10 In my eyes this cd is a classic. Pharoahes advanced vocab and superb flow was apparent through out this whole Cd. The Features on this Cd were very strong and made the cd that much more enjoyable. I would advise any Hip hop fan to click the link above, download this and give it a listen you wont be disapointed."

TheTruth said: "bump bump................."

TheTruth said: "[QUOTE=Tremor]yes you can get soem feedback....both were very nicely done! and you were lucky! these were the 2 cds me and buck were gonna do.... both had indepth feed of lyrics and beats...personally...i thought jays seemed a little more personal the way he was describing it...but not that it matters...Truth would get teh vote just on the sheer size and content of it of the lyrics, cd info and beats... i think if these battles were to be done again, there would have to be a size limitation...like 10000 charecters (which is the largest a single post can be) cheers[/QUOTE] yeah i agree with the amount of characters...I didnt realize how much i did until i posted it good look for the feed"